I've heard that Bird phrase for years but never made the rudiment connection. Thanks, that open lots of interesting doors.
ML should write a book!
Paradiddle Dabble
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An open letter from Alice Russell. June 21, 2011, Brookline, Massachusetts. 1. DO NOT make insulting, mean spirited remarks about anyone or their work; there are a plethora of sites where you can rant unfettered. If you attack someone personally, your comments will be removed. You can post it, but I'm not paying for it. Go elsewhere, and let those artists who are actually interested in discussion and learning have the floor. 2. There will be NO posting of or links to copyrighted material without permission of the copyright owner. That's the law. And if you respect the work of people who make meaningful contributions, you should have no problem following this policy. 3. I appreciate many of the postings from so many of you. Please don't feel you have to spend your time "defending" the LCC to those who come here with the express purpose of disproving it. George worked for decades to disprove it himself; if you know his music, there's no question that it has gravity. And a final word: George was famous for his refusal to lower his standards in all areas of his life, no matter the cost. He twice refused concerts of his music at Lincoln Center Jazz because of their early position on what was authentically jazz. So save any speculation about the level of him as an artist and a man. The quotes on our websites were not written by George; they were written by critics/writers/scholars/fans over many years. Sincerely, Alice
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Dear ML,
Thanks for another example of education beyond words - it's great.
Let me try my thing in words - just to see how clumsy it is like this. When I actually was a drummer we thought modern jazz history was Philly Joe, Elvin and Tony Williams - in that order. OK so we missed out too many people, but your example shows something I obviously never really understood - the paradiddle. My first teacher was into Gene Krupa - and I always associated that rhythm with him. But your "simple" demonstration shows us that it was much more.
The two rudiments I got closest to mastering seemed to lay out the rest of the post - Charlie Parker period:
Triplets = Elvin (what an understatement)
and Polyrhythm (that three across four on two surfaces - da da da da da da da da da da da da) thing = Tony Williams.
Your musical examples are where I think education needs to go. Analysis is what we of Roman descent did best - for eons, right? So now we have postmodernism - which turns those structures inside out - because they became boring. But we need renewal again - and where to look? The technology as used by you, me and others in this intuitive fashion begins to point a way forward.
Sorry I've been absent from the Forum - there's too much "work" around here. It's really nice to look in and see so much exploration there.
Here's a small exploration of mine from last summer in Beijing with DouDou the parrott – which was so good we played for over an hour: http://www.4shared.com/file/40243823/da ... udou2.html
Happy daylight savings!
Bob
Thanks for another example of education beyond words - it's great.
Let me try my thing in words - just to see how clumsy it is like this. When I actually was a drummer we thought modern jazz history was Philly Joe, Elvin and Tony Williams - in that order. OK so we missed out too many people, but your example shows something I obviously never really understood - the paradiddle. My first teacher was into Gene Krupa - and I always associated that rhythm with him. But your "simple" demonstration shows us that it was much more.
The two rudiments I got closest to mastering seemed to lay out the rest of the post - Charlie Parker period:
Triplets = Elvin (what an understatement)
and Polyrhythm (that three across four on two surfaces - da da da da da da da da da da da da) thing = Tony Williams.
Your musical examples are where I think education needs to go. Analysis is what we of Roman descent did best - for eons, right? So now we have postmodernism - which turns those structures inside out - because they became boring. But we need renewal again - and where to look? The technology as used by you, me and others in this intuitive fashion begins to point a way forward.
Sorry I've been absent from the Forum - there's too much "work" around here. It's really nice to look in and see so much exploration there.
Here's a small exploration of mine from last summer in Beijing with DouDou the parrott – which was so good we played for over an hour: http://www.4shared.com/file/40243823/da ... udou2.html
Happy daylight savings!
Bob