This a track from Isaac DelPozo's first CD – CYCLE.
It's based on mathematical formulae derived from the LCC.
A Very Altered Cherry - Isaac Del Pozo
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dttyqzgmdqt4p ... Y.mp3?dl=0
He calls this Super Lydian
Math and the LCC - with an example
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An open letter from Alice Russell. June 21, 2011, Brookline, Massachusetts. 1. DO NOT make insulting, mean spirited remarks about anyone or their work; there are a plethora of sites where you can rant unfettered. If you attack someone personally, your comments will be removed. You can post it, but I'm not paying for it. Go elsewhere, and let those artists who are actually interested in discussion and learning have the floor. 2. There will be NO posting of or links to copyrighted material without permission of the copyright owner. That's the law. And if you respect the work of people who make meaningful contributions, you should have no problem following this policy. 3. I appreciate many of the postings from so many of you. Please don't feel you have to spend your time "defending" the LCC to those who come here with the express purpose of disproving it. George worked for decades to disprove it himself; if you know his music, there's no question that it has gravity. And a final word: George was famous for his refusal to lower his standards in all areas of his life, no matter the cost. He twice refused concerts of his music at Lincoln Center Jazz because of their early position on what was authentically jazz. So save any speculation about the level of him as an artist and a man. The quotes on our websites were not written by George; they were written by critics/writers/scholars/fans over many years. Sincerely, Alice
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Re: Math and the LCC - with an example
So I think this is some of the most interesting work I've seen (heard) on the Concept.
What do you think of this music people???
Bob
What do you think of this music people???
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Re: Math and the LCC - with an example
Sounds good to me!
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Hello to everyone,
Questions are good!
Isaac
Questions are good!
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Re: Math and the LCC - with an example
My question exactly - So Isaac. What is Super Lydian? And how does it apply to your composition A Very Altered Cherry for example ??
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Sal, I know that Isaac just moved to a place where he has limited internet. Thanks opning the discussion... Helk be back to us soon...
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I think it could be either 
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[quote="SalKur"]"super lydian' if these are your words, what does it mean?[/quote]
i use "superlydian" to describe lydian augmented, the logic being that if superlocrian is the flattest mode of the melodic minor one tone flat from locrian, then "superlydian" is the sharpest mode from melodic minor, one tone sharp from lydian. i would not presume to speak for isaac in any event, but perhaps this is what he meant...
i use "superlydian" to describe lydian augmented, the logic being that if superlocrian is the flattest mode of the melodic minor one tone flat from locrian, then "superlydian" is the sharpest mode from melodic minor, one tone sharp from lydian. i would not presume to speak for isaac in any event, but perhaps this is what he meant...
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Re: Math and the LCC - with an example
Hello to everyone,
The harmony of A very altered Cherry is al lydian chords.
You can use either the lydian mode of each chord or the lydian augmented mode also called "superlydian".
All this harmony moves in a modal fashion without dominant motion.
The principle of tonal gravity explains that there is no need to have tension in the chords , cause they move in a natural way due to the exponential geometry of the chromatic scale.
Isaac
The harmony of A very altered Cherry is al lydian chords.
You can use either the lydian mode of each chord or the lydian augmented mode also called "superlydian".
All this harmony moves in a modal fashion without dominant motion.
The principle of tonal gravity explains that there is no need to have tension in the chords , cause they move in a natural way due to the exponential geometry of the chromatic scale.
Isaac
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Re: Math and the LCC - with an example
I hope that the original helps!
I upload the piano part and the solos harmony.
Isaac
I upload the piano part and the solos harmony.
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LEAD SHEET- A very altered cherry
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Hey thanks Isaac - look forward to checking that out on my piano...
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Re: Math and the LCC - with an example
Hello salkur,
The composition is thought in an open key ( there´s no main tonality).
I don´t understand the meaning of "playground swing".
Mathematics define all chords as sum´s of sinusoidal signals and the scales describe ( when tempered) an exponential curve, so answering to your question this is the role that they play.
Lydian chords also can move anywhere, you can try the following progressions on the keyboard:
FLYD/GLYD/ALYD/GLYD/ ( ballad feel)
FLYD/ABLYD/DBLYD/GBLYD/ (random feel)
So it´s proven that they move ANYWHERE. In non-functional music there is no need to have a harmonic justification.
I can upload something about the algebraic characteristics of the lydian scale if the forum is interested.
Isaac
The composition is thought in an open key ( there´s no main tonality).
I don´t understand the meaning of "playground swing".
Mathematics define all chords as sum´s of sinusoidal signals and the scales describe ( when tempered) an exponential curve, so answering to your question this is the role that they play.
Lydian chords also can move anywhere, you can try the following progressions on the keyboard:
FLYD/GLYD/ALYD/GLYD/ ( ballad feel)
FLYD/ABLYD/DBLYD/GBLYD/ (random feel)
So it´s proven that they move ANYWHERE. In non-functional music there is no need to have a harmonic justification.
I can upload something about the algebraic characteristics of the lydian scale if the forum is interested.
Isaac