you are something. i often forget where i learned "most" of my life-lessons from - jazz. then you remind me...
in art or design i'd talk about "oppositing" - meaning the simple act of doing the opposite of what anyone else is doing. if they're fast - go slow. if they're big, be small. if they're straight ahead, don't be... etc
so parker in 1946 is playing the musical equivalent of bored and laughing (at the same time - no simple idea). bored and laughing is "contradiction" in postmodern theory. one example from jacques lacan (french psychoanlyst and critical theorist): "the unconscious is the discourse of the other"... then when talking about how this applies in therapy, he adds "the subject first talks about himself without talking to you, then he talks to you without talking about himself. When he is able to talk to you about himself, the analysis is over."
musical performance is a form of therapy spoken out loud. the unconscious freely expresses anything it chooses. when the unconscious stops talking the "therapy" is over - either someone else starts "talking", or there's a structured passage (composition or arrangement) which creates a segue.
you might like what george lewis has written comparing john cage and charlie parker as two musicians interested in "real-time" music. it's worth a read. http://www.4shared.com/file/92896573/cd ... dcage.html
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An open letter from Alice Russell. June 21, 2011, Brookline, Massachusetts. 1. DO NOT make insulting, mean spirited remarks about anyone or their work; there are a plethora of sites where you can rant unfettered. If you attack someone personally, your comments will be removed. You can post it, but I'm not paying for it. Go elsewhere, and let those artists who are actually interested in discussion and learning have the floor. 2. There will be NO posting of or links to copyrighted material without permission of the copyright owner. That's the law. And if you respect the work of people who make meaningful contributions, you should have no problem following this policy. 3. I appreciate many of the postings from so many of you. Please don't feel you have to spend your time "defending" the LCC to those who come here with the express purpose of disproving it. George worked for decades to disprove it himself; if you know his music, there's no question that it has gravity. And a final word: George was famous for his refusal to lower his standards in all areas of his life, no matter the cost. He twice refused concerts of his music at Lincoln Center Jazz because of their early position on what was authentically jazz. So save any speculation about the level of him as an artist and a man. The quotes on our websites were not written by George; they were written by critics/writers/scholars/fans over many years. Sincerely, Alice
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absolutely. and i'll share more as i know it.
my hope is that there may also be a message for you in george lewis (who you must know - through muhal richard abrams at least).
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our forum makes me wish that we all lived in the same town and could hang out. the next best thing to 'examples' is 'doing'
ps: you once asked for a longer version of my improv with the parakeet. it's here now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbzrh1-XI0o
my hope is that there may also be a message for you in george lewis (who you must know - through muhal richard abrams at least).
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our forum makes me wish that we all lived in the same town and could hang out. the next best thing to 'examples' is 'doing'
ps: you once asked for a longer version of my improv with the parakeet. it's here now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbzrh1-XI0o
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sorry if i'm still off-topic. your posts are really interesting and bring up a ton of stuff for me.
i was able to find a copy of the joseph jarman cd "song for" with christopher gaddy on piano http://themoreyouthinkaboutit.blogspot.com
i was able to find a copy of the joseph jarman cd "song for" with christopher gaddy on piano http://themoreyouthinkaboutit.blogspot.com
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I love that line at bars 14 and 15. I hear two other things when I slow it down:
1. right after the A natural in bar two I hear an Ab..setting up a Bb7 change.
2. The last note I hear as an F natural. The is a good example of what George calls 'Vertical Poly-modality' 'cause the notes on beat three outline a Bb aug and the last four notes an F minor triad.
1. right after the A natural in bar two I hear an Ab..setting up a Bb7 change.
2. The last note I hear as an F natural. The is a good example of what George calls 'Vertical Poly-modality' 'cause the notes on beat three outline a Bb aug and the last four notes an F minor triad.
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Yes. Get well soon. Here's a little Lou Donaldson for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNnpk50v ... 17&index=9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNnpk50v ... 17&index=9
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Get well!!!
Motherlode!
Please get well and be back to us soon!
We're thinking of you,
CN, aka Jason
Please get well and be back to us soon!
We're thinking of you,
CN, aka Jason
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charlie parker and dizzy gillespie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91dolWWd ... re=related